you can't say this worker never lifted a finger. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> only jeanne. that's all for me. i'll be back tomorrow. i'm kate bolduan right here in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, a report tonight says mitt romney's tax plan would raise taxes for 95% of americans. does it add up? and as chick-fil-a faces outrage over its stance on gay marriage from so quarter, amtrak unveils new ads, ride the pride. and a kidnapped woman going through security, let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, ouch. a report today from the tax policy center says that mitt

romney's tax plan would raise taxes on 95% of americans. now, mitt has promised a 20% tax cut to everyone. so whose math adds up -- mitt's or the tax policy center's? it's sort of like an olympic boxing match. today, the romney camp threw a punch fast and early, pointing out that one of the authors was a former aide to president obama. as the romney campaign wrote to us, that is, quote, hardly objective. true, one round to mitt. but for the romney campaign, we checked the other two names on the report, and one author was a former aide to george h.w. bush, the final one worked for both bush and obama. round two to barack. let's lay out the substantive charge f. report says if mitt romney's plan becomes reality, tax revenue, because he's going to be cutting marginal tax rates, will drop by $360 billion in the first year alone.

that means if it's revenue-neutral, someone must pay $360 billion more. again, that's if it's revenue-neutral, which is something mitt romney specifically promised in february. romney's economic hauncho, glenn hubbard, tells "outfront" that the money will come from an economy that is growing more quickly than it would under barack obama. specifically, 4% a year under mitt romney. that is nearly triple the rate of president obama's most recent quarter. and just to make it very clear, the last year in which this economy grew 4% or more was the year 2000. the tax policy center, again, this report, says, no way. i wanted to get to the bottom of it. we got five very long and detailed replies from some of the top tax attorneys, professors and economists in this country. on the key question of whether the tax cuts mitt romney promises will get the economy

growing fast enough to generate all that revenue, new york university's daniel shaviro told us, quote, there really is no conceivable way that gdp growth can make a significant short-term difference to the study's finding. now, conrad dequadros says, the romney's plan is a far more efficient tax plan than our current one and cutting marginal rates and eliminating deductions would boost economic growth and raise tax rern. our experts said, we can quibble with some of the specifics in this report, but overall, they were not able to dismiss its conclusions. the bottom line is this -- we need more detail from mitt and we tried to get it. dean hubbard was helpful on e-mail. the romney campaign, though, was not able to make anyone available to go through the crucial numbers and get the bottom-line facts and resolve this. for example, they could have explaid that, yes, everybody, some people are going to pay more in taxes under our plan because right now, half of americans pay no federal incomes

taxes at all. if we broaden the base, that means some people who are paying nothing will pay something, sure, that's a tax increase, at least in the first year. so, yes, the tax policy center analysis is incomplete. it's imperfect. but to score a knockout, like sylvester stallone in "rookcky iii," that would be a knockout. romney needs to get the $360 billion without raising effective taxes on a whole lot of people. so he could be the victorious one because here's the math on votes. if you're raising the tax burdens on 95% of american, you are not likely to win the job of president of the united states of america. joining us is steven moore and matt bennett. great to see both of you tonight. president obama saw this today, obviously it played to exactly what he wanted to hear. here's what he had to say at a campaign stop.

>> just today an independent, nonpartisan organization, they crunched all the numbers. they looked at his plan. they found that if governor romney wants to keep his word and pay for this plan of -- this $5 trillion tax cut, the only way to do it is to cut tax breaks that you, middle class families, depend on. >> he needs to fight back, don't you agree, to just lay it out for clearly? how can he do that? >> he can't allow the liberal groups like the brookings institute, to say this is a tax increase on anyone. as you know, the centerpiece of the plan is to cut the tax rates across the board by some 10% or 15%. >> on the marginal rates. >> i think that grows the economy. i'm a supply cider. i think lower rates provide more growth for the economy.

i don't think it's unreasonable to think with this and other growth policies we could have a 4% growth rate which does generate a lot of revenue over the next -- maybe not in the short term over but the next decade or so, you get a lot of windfall revenues from that kind of growth rate. where i will fault mitt romney is i agree with you, i don't think he's done a good enough job of explaining, look, we're going to have to close some of these loopholes, get rid of some of these special interest deductions in the tax code. about half of those revenue lost from all those tax deductions, those are taken by the people in the top 3%. >> fair point. >> that's right. it's interesting when you look at the numbers, one of our top tax attorneys pointed out f you get rid of the mortgage interest deduction, charitable deduction, state and local taxes, it does help the wealthy in this country, you more than make up for the $360 billion. in fact, you get $431 billion.

he has money to spare. >> the problem, though, is that mitt romney treats taxes like they're some sort of state secret. he won't release his own income taxes and he won't release details on the tax plan. so your experts and the folks at brookings had to make assumptionings that they're not sure about as it relates to mitt romney's tax plan because he hasn't made clear what he intends to do. but the assumptions used in the study you cite are very fair ones. he said he wants to stay revenue-neutral, as you point out. he said he wants to lower the marginal tax rate, to get rid of certain deductions. so they conclude and your experts back them up, what that means is the rich get a pretty big tax cut and the middle class and lower income folks get a pretty big increase in taxes. >> stephen moore, i'm also curious where you get the confidence -- i'm glad to see it. i think everyone's glad to hear it. but the last time this economy grew at 4% annually, which is

what glenn hubbard says they're expecting in year one of mitt romney, was in 2000. seems rather aggressive. >> it is. but this has been an extremely deep recession, one of the deepest since the great depression. and we've had no recovery to speak of. we haven't had that boom yet. i think when you take into account -- under reagan at this stage of the expansion, we didn't have 4% growth. as you know, we had 8% growth. i think we can aspire to those high rates of growth. the other point the two of you leave out is if republicans win this election, in fact, they're going to have a vote on this tomorrow about expedited procedures to move next year right to tax reform, to blow up the whole tax code and start over, with some of those eliminations and deductions you talked about, with getting the rates down. i think everybody and all sides -- i think that everybody agree that is we can do much better than the current tax code

that we have now that exports jobs. >> can anyone make the point that i am going to raise taxes on a lot of people because a lot of people are not paying taxes right now or is it a political non-starter? >> of course they couldn't. that's why she's secretive about exactly what his plan would do. and it's why glenn hubbard has to be circumspect about what the plan would do. the details are politically devastating for romney. >> thanks very much to both of you. we appreciate it. check out the report yourself. go ahead and let us know what you think. and what you think mitt romney should do next. "outfront" after this, as chick-fil-a faces backlash over its coming out on gay marriage, amtrak rolls out ads as gay couples ride the pride, they say. and the american role in syria, we've got an exclusive report the president could be supporting the rebels. and penn state says it's not going to use state funds to pay a $60 million fine related to

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with pride," the name of amtrak's new advertising campaign aimed at gay and lesbian families. you've got two dads and a child and then you have others with two moms and a child featuring same-sex couples with children. the ads say that childrens ages 2 to 15 get a 50% discount when traveling with an adult. whooes interesting about this timing is it's the first time amtrak has included gay families in its advertising material. amtrak received $1.4 billion this year from taxpayers. are they using your tax dollars to push who sam may believe is a hot button social issue. that's fair to say. some people may agree with the point of view, others may not. "outfront" tonight, john avlon, michael waldman and hogan gidley. hogan, let me start with you. amtrak says the ads are not politically motivated. >> of course. >> of course i'm starting with you on this one. do you buy it? >> that's right.

i wouldn't say that. people advertise for different reasons. obviously places like target and starbucks have been using homosexual couples in their advertising for years. there's really no departure from where a lot of these companies are going. we'll let the market decide. the big problem here is using taxpayer dollars to do it and to make a political statement. that's what's going to turn people on to this topic and make people angry and come out against it, i would imagine, from the right chick-fil-a's a private business. they can do what they want to do. amtrak obviously using taxpayer dollars here, that's going to be a serious issue for the right and i imagine amtrak will become somewhat of a rallying cry or a whipping boy, if you will, for our side and we'll come out and try to show people that we disagree with that type of advertising and that type of use of taxpayer dollars. >> john? >> there's a fundamental difference. chick-fil-a is a private company, as hogan put out. people can protest the beliefs of the individual of running

that company. but it's a private company. fundamentally, it's different with amtrak because you could argue they're trying to push a social agenda or you could say they're taking a stand against discrimination. that is a role entirely consistent with a government subsidized entity. this is a lot bigger than politics and social issues. it's not an apple-to-apples comparison as all. >> in fact, conservatives for years have urged amtrak to behave more like a private business. now it is, marketing its services to consumers. when private businesses began including african-americans in ads in the early 1960s, that was considered shocking. now we would say, of course they will. this marks a real tectonic shift in american social thinking and business is ahead of the curve. >> the timing, though, does seem -- a president comes out. how long does it take to get an

ad and put it together? six weeks ago he comes out and says, i'm more gay marriage. and now amtrak comes out with "ride with pride". >> you never know. i don't think anyone's ever accused amtrak of moving so quickly. >> oh, that is a fair point. >> wow. >> that is a fair point. hogan, what do you think about the point that john avlon made, which is it would be consistent with a government agency to be pushing something that is civil rights and nondiscrimination targeted which some people feel this issue very much is? >> right. i undetand the point, i just think in this politically charged environment we live in, this is kind of a gift for the right in the sense that we can come out after this hard, as an abuse of taxpayer dollars and i imagine people will do that as we move into the fall and as people start paying attention to these types of things. >> john and michael are both champing at the bit. >> hogan, do you think they should?

as a political strategist -- >> i don't think that -- no, no, i don't think it's necessarily a good thing for them to come out and waste time and energy talking about stuff like this at this point. i do think, though, there will be a sect on the right who will be very excited about coming out after -- i use that -- excuse the phrase, but coming out after this advertising plan that they've put out. but i don't think it's necessarily all that important at this point. i think that this has been going on for a long time with other companies. obviously they've used taxpayer dollars here so people can use it as a whipping boy. but we'll try to focus on the economy and not the side issues heading into the fall. >> i think that will be difficult because this isn't saying pro-marriage or anti-marriage. this is normal american life, something to celebrate. tough ramp up the negativity and hatred to attack these ads. >> what they're advertising is kids ride half off when they're traveling with a parent. this is not a special

promotion -- >> they are saying ride with pride, though. >> but it's not a special for same-sex kids -- >> no, it's for any adult with any child. >> but negative and hatred are two different things. you call dan cathy homophobic. he says, i'm for marriage between one man and one woman. that's not hatred. >> sometimes negative and hatred do overlap, you do agree? >> of course, of course. >> that's a big concession when it comes to some of these protests -- >> hatred is negative. >> yes, it is. >> marriage between one man and one rick santorum did the

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covert finding, an intelligence finding, which basically allows the cia and other u.s. intelligence agencies to provide support for the rebels. we have to be careful to note, this is not military assistance in the traditional sense of weapons. the u.s. not ready to arm the rebels, leaving that to allies like saudi arabia and qatar. but the u.s. could provide clandestine assistance and intelligence. we understand this could have been in place for months already. and we understand the u.s. has been help saudi arabia and qatar vet some of these groups. the u.s. doesn't know who it would be arming. they're trying to find how to get the weapons into the right hands so countries like saudi arabia and qatar can do something like that. and also providing intelligence on what kind of troop movement syrian troops are making so that opposition rebels are not found in a difficult situation, erin.

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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about, where we focus on our reporting from the front lines. first, a maryland man allegedly who made threats against his workplace has been charged. state officials tell us that neil prescott has been charged with misuse of a telephone, which is a misdemeanor. according to local police, escott allegedly told a supervisor over the phone, i'm a joker, i'm going to load my guns and blow everybody off. you may recall the police chief came on this show and said that the man had 25 guns, thousands of rounds of ammunition. he said he intended to make formal charges. some may be disappoint that had there were this few. he will be formally arrested once he's released from the hospital. he's undergoing mental evaluation now.

if convicted the maximum sentence for that charge is three years in jail, a fine of $500, or both. secretary of defense leon panetta is in israel tonight. he visited the iron dome. he had meetings with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. a big topic of discussion was iran. here's what benjamin netanyahu had to say about the need to do something about iran soon. >> right now, the iranian regime believes that the international community does not have the will to stop its nuclear program. this must change and it must change quickly because time to resolve this issue peacefully is running out. >> as a response, panetta says the united states, quote, will not allow iran to develop a nuclear weapon, period. the secretary of state, hillary clinton, has started a major tour of a crucial continent, africa. she's going to be visiting many

countries. she starts in sen gal. she's going to be talking about economic growth and also talking about democracy. democracy is a crucial issue, especially in mali, where al qaeda is rising. the secretary address that had during a speech today. >> by some estimates, this could set back mali's economic progress by nearly a decade. it certainly created a vacuum in the north in which rebellion and extremism have spread, threatening not only fooem people's lives and the treasures of the past but the stability of the region. >> it's a fair assessment. other stops on the secretary's trip include south sedan, uganda and kenya. customers of mf global who lost their money will likely get most of it back. that's what trustees overseeing the process told the senate agricultural committee today. they said that customers in this country have gotten 80% back of

what they lost. that's good news but we watched the hearing. and there was outrage that no one from mf global has been charged with anything yet, including its famous ceo jon corzine, former a senator, governor of new jersey and ceo of goldman sachs. it's been 360 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? that brings me to our fourth story "outfront," your move, congress. the fed today announced it won't take any further action to stimulate the economy, which puts the ball back in congress' court. to do something about the fiscal cliff and the debt crisis in this country. and yet just two days before lawmakers take a month-long vacation, our elected officials spent the day holding dueling and symbolic votes on the bush era tax cuts, knowing full well that if you want to extend them in full, that won't pass with democrats and if you want to just extend them for people who make less than $250,000, that won't pass with republicans.

so they spent a lot of time voting on nothing. fed chairman ben bernanke has made a point of saying he can do only so much and congress needs to act. >> the most effective way that the congress could help to support the economy right now would be to work to address the nation's fiscal challenges. i think it's important that in the short term that congress work effectively to address the debt limit and the fiscal cliff. just delaying everything, just saying we're not going to do it, put it off a year, i think that would be a very bad outcome. >> "outfront" tonight, republican senator pat toomey of pennsylvania, a member of the super committee, which failed to come up with a deal last summer to save us from this crisis. i spoke to him moments ago and started by asking him to respond to ben bernanke's very clear statement that congress is who must act. >> i think the problems that affect our economy are not fundamentally monetary in nature. so i'm not in favor of the fed going through yet another round of what they call quantitative easing which really is a way of

printing money. the fed's already bought two-thirds of the deficit that we were in last year. i think that's a dangerous policy. i think the problems are fiscal. that is to say, the government's spending too much money. i think it's a threat of a huge tax increase, that's a real problem we should address. and i think it's regulatory. we have an avalanche of new regulations preventing job growth. so i would prefer congress act. unfortunately, as you know, we appear to be locked in this gridlock. >> definitely appear to be locked. just looking at the past couple of weeks, a lot of time has been spent in the house and in the senate. with each party voting on its tax policy, a tax policy that they know is dead on arrival with the other party, the president's democrats saying, we're going to vote a plan who everyone who makes over $250,000, the tax rates go back up. republicans voting for a plan to keep tax rates lower for everyone. that's a lot of time wasted, though, isn't it? neither one of those blanket points of view are going to

prevail? >> well that, appears to be the case now. but of course, as you know, 44 democratic senators and the democratic president of the united states less than two years ago voted to extend all the current tax rates because the president argued at the time, the last thing you want to do is raise taxes in a weak economy. well, today we have a still weaker economy. and so the logic still prevails. and i'm disappointed that the democrats have done this complete reversal for apparently political motivation, frankly. i think what we should do is at least one year extension of current rates with instructions to the committees to enact pro-growth tax reform. >> the president has, to be fair, he's cut agencies. he has put a lot of things forth on that front. but just assume for a second that the president wins. you end up in the same sort of gridlock that you're in right now. are you then going to accept that an increase in revenue, i.e. some people paying more taxes than they're paying now, is just inevitable?

you're willing to make that deal as part of a grand bargain? >> i'm not going to negotiate now on the deal for a hypothetical outcome of the election. if you recall back on the super committee, tifs one that put revenue on the table, not because revenue is fiscally or mathematic mathematically responsible -- i hope we can avoid that because it will do damage to the economy. what's broken, what needs to be fixed, our entitlement programs that are out of control. in the last ten years, federal spending has doubled. we can't continue spending at this pace. that's the problem. you could double all income taxes overnight and you would still be running a budget deficit. we can't tax our way out of this, we have to restructure the programs that are broke zbln it's a fair point but it does seem to fly in the face of something else you said before. you don't want the defense cuts. but that's an area where federal

spending has surged, thanks to the wars in iraq and afghanistan. we're at record levels for defense spending. it's an area that seems ripe for the cutting. even with the sequestration, we're not cutting as much as george h.w. bush and about the same as ronald reagan did. how can you say you want cuts in spending and try to fight against the doefense cuts? >> first of all, i've supported the premise that the pentagon budget has to be on the sable. can't be sacrosanct. but providing for national security is arguably the number one obligation of the federal government. actually, i think it is. so what we ought to ask ourselves is what does it cost to execute that mission of providing national security? and whatever that is, that's what we have to pay. >> as a matter of principle, when you look at the fiscal 2012 actual spending by the omb in this country, we spent more on defense than we spent on health care, medicare and medicaid. is that something sort of as a moral question that you think is fair? it would seem that economic security and health security is

an important part of what makes a country strong enough to have the defense that we have. >> i kind of would look at it the other way around. for most of the history of the this country, we had a defense budget. we didn't spend anything on those things. they didn't exist because it was always acknowledged from the formation of the country that the first obligation of the federal government is to defend the american people. >> right. but in terms of the concept that if your economy isn't growing and people aren't better off than their parents were, that you don't have a fundamentally strong homeland economically, what do you have to defend? >> well, that's a valid point. ultimately, our national security rests on our economic security. >> senator toomey, final question, do you have night where is you wake up in a cold sweat, worried about your vote on that super committee? because it was your committee that has put us in this position. >> and as you know, erin, i was the one person who put together a comprehensive proposal that included new revenue, which was excruciatingly difficult for me to do, met the democratic demand

for revenue halfway, asked for the most modest spending cut, would have reached our goal of the $1.2 trillion, which was the statutory goal. all the republicans agreed to support my proposal, despite how difficult that was. and the democrats walked away from the table. so i have a clear conscience about the work that i put into the super committee. >> senator, thanks very much. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. now two tsa agents at miami airport rescued a woman from two kidnappers as she was checking in for her flight. let's show you the surveillance video. this happened on july 5th. basically as you can see, we're zoning in on what you should watch. there were behavior detection officers for the tsa. they spot add 25-year-old woman who was trembling, apparently she was trying to hide facial injuries at a ticket counter. after separating her from her travel companions, they learned that she had been beaten. she said she was being held against her will. "outfront" tonight, mike hatfield.

thanks for coming "outfront" and appreciate your taking the time. what are these behavior detection agents? how did they pick this woman out? a lot of people look yub set, disturbed, nervous, going through security. >> well, one could argue the stressful environment of an airport can cause that in a lot of people. but what they're trained to do and they do receive a very rigorous training protocol before they get certified to do this job, they look for indicators, both voluntary action, involuntary actions, facial gesture, facial motions. and a wide variety of body language, if you will, as they practice this behavior detection science. in this case, there was a rather overt initial indicator, the woman was, as you said, trying to hide her face, which seemed that they watched her a little bit longer. as it progressed, the point value of her situation increased pretty rapidly. and it wasn't long before they called in local law enforcement and the rest is in the police

report. >> what do you mean point value? is that a specific term where you look at certain things and ascribe certain points -- >> the practice of behavior detection, the officers practice a mental mapping of individual behavior. so if somebody was just covering their face, say, or looking nervous, that in itself wouldn't take them to a police referral. they take it in steps so that they have a way of doing a detailed evaluation. and in this mental process when they get to a certain threshold, then it's time to refer to police. >> have you busted, for lack of a better word, this sort of thing before? >> this is the first kidnapping that has been thwarted in this airport and across the country, as far as i know. but i can tell you that as far as other crime, other criminal activities, it's been sort of a collateral benefit of this program. their focus is very narrowly on terror behavior, individual that is may be planning or in the

process of conducting a terror attack. but in that practice, they do get sort of a collateral catch, if you will, of other people in this range from money launderers, drug smuggler, even child pornographers, other people involved in criminal behavior. there is a parallel terrorism as a crime. it's given away other criminal acts. >> i understand what happened here is in dispute. whether it was a dispute between the individuals, something with a boyfriend -- it's unclear exactly what happened. but that's not your group's job, right? if someone's there against their will, it doesn't matter to you what was going on behind the scenes? >> right. the important part here -- it's the hand-off. the tsa officers, the behavior detection officers, have a very defined job, they have a narrow focus. the way the program is structured, when it gets to a certain level where either a crime is possiy be committed

or even worse, if it is an act of terror, we partner very closely with local law enforcement agencies across the country. it's a verysuccessful model we've developed over the last ten years. that handoff is a critical point and element of the program. that's what these officers did here in miami and to the extent that it helped this woman in distress and may have saved her life, it was a success. >> mark, thanks again. we appreciate it. >> thanks very much. we have breaking news just crossing right now. cnn affiliate km xwshgsh is reporting the psychiatrist who was treating the alleged gunman in the colorado movie theater shooting was so concerned about his behavior that she notified the university of colorado behavioral evaluation and threat assessment team. this is really, really important information because sources are saying that dr. lynne fenton, the one who was treating james holmes this spring, had concerns

in early june that he could be a threat to other people. that was six weeks before the shooting. she contacted several members of the threat assessment team in separate conversations. again, according to our affiliate kmgh, sources say officials at the university never contacted aurora police, though, before the july 209 killings. that makes this story even more tragic. "outfront" next, following the money in the penn state sex scandal. the school says it will not use state money to pay a $60 million fine. but the fine could get bigger and bigger and bigger. does that promise add up? do you see it ? there it is ! there it is ! where ? where ? it's getting away ! where is it ? it's gone. we'll find it.

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the u.s. post office has until midnight to pay the federal government $5 billion or default. the post office says, sure, we're going to miss our payment today and guess what? we're going to miss a $5.6 billion additional payment in september. for most of us, because of the magic of math, it doesn't matter until the world falls apart. you're still going to get your mail. people will still be paid, for now. but if congress doesn't act, the postal service will run out of money for operations in mid october. the senate tried.

they passed a bill back in april. it doesn't do much in terms of reform. but it got some of the near-term problems. but all it did is kick the can down the road. the house has acted on 26. that's how many laws the congress has mapassed that rena post offices. wow. tonight, we begin in uganda are dead. there's been an ebola outbreak. fear is rising. . >> reporter: right behind me is the hospital where they're treating the patients who have the ebola. there are several layers of protection between where i'm standing and into the isolation wards. you have to place your boots into a solution to try to

disinfect them when you go in and out. certainly it's affects the psychology in this region. the president asked people not to make close contact, events have been cancelled to a large degree. there's a sense, not of panic, but wariness about the hospital behind me and also about the potential for this ebola virus, which the outbreak started technically some weeks ago, but it was only recognized a few days ago. it will spread from where i'm standing right now beyond into western uganda and beyond that. the next few days are critical in stamping out this outbreak. >> thanks to david. and now our fifth story. is penn state making promises it's not going to keep? they face millions of dollars in costs and damages including $60 million in ncaa penalty, more than $10 million in investigative and public relations costs, and who knows how much in damages for the victims of jerry sandusky.

the school recently issued a statement saying it won't use philanthropic money, taxes and tuition to pay those damages. you looked into how much this is really going to cost. when you look through the numbers, what do you find? >> erin, i think this could get higher than $600 million. here's why. beyo -- $100 million. here's why. beyond the $60 million to the ncaa, the $10 million they've spent many crisis management, if you spread that over five year, that you're already at the $100 million mark. that doesn't include $13 million loss in bowl revenue, potential lawsuits. let's take just a small chunk. there are 10 victims in that grand jury, 10 who have had convictions. if you pay that out, you get to a $20 million number automatically. we' got fines, potential loss of

aid, federal aid for students who go to penn state. so all of this and you're looking at a long-term several years, i think it could get well above $100 million. but really, that's a mark that we're fast approaching. . >> fast approaching already. so it could get a lot worse. how much money do they have? when they try to say hey, we're not going to use tuition or tax money, are they going to be able to keep that promise? what's the hole they have? >> they have a lot of money. they have a $1.8 billion endowment, but the promise is that they're not going to use donation money, tuition money, which comes from students, and the big one is taxpayers dollars. and the thing about the caveat is we really can't check that. because right to know laws, the open record laws in pennsylvania, this university isn't subject to them. they're actually immune from them. and interestingly enough, the reason, the big lobby for that immunity was the former president who's now been accused by t internal investigation --

>> that's amazing. >> -- of covering this up. >> the endowment itself, there's a lot of people who have given that money over the years, probably alumni who don't want a dollar of that going to this. but that it could, right? >> potentially. the university promised it won't, but when you look at the potential for the expenses to grow, at some point, when does their rainy day fund expire? >> right, can't use taxpayer, tuition, donations. >> they're going to get to a point where their rainy day fund, the pots of money they're pulling from now, when they run out, where does it go? and erin, we don't know where that money was going before. >> good point. >> the money that's being spent on the scandal now, if that was going to certain educational needs before, how do we know that tuition dollars aren't making up for that. or the endowment. >> thanks very much. this problem could get a lot worse. al qaeda has put a bounty on president obama's head. but the dollar amount is much more important, though, than you

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without the camel report. it's been reported that a so malian militant group offered 10 camels as the bounty on president obama's head. at the time of the announcement, which also included a 20 chicken bounty for the head of hillary clinton, it got a lot of media attention. a lot of people made some jokes. after all, the average cost of a camel in somalia is about $700. 10 camels for $7,000 is nothing, though, compared to the almost $33 million the american government has offered for information about al qaeda in somalia. this is, though, a very serious story. because what a lot of ople may not realize is how valuable and crucial the camel is for africa. historically, camels shaped the continent and asia as the chief form of transportation for the silk route. they were enlisted for battle by roman, french, spanish and english armies. it was well beyond africa. and they were vital to the construction of canals and railroads because of their ability to carry thousands and ou